1 Month on - So how's it all going?

[burty]

still if you contantly change it or add to it i dont see much automation here

Product Site: Buyers pay via paypal, they get sent to a download script, they download the product. What can be more automated?
Adsense Site: People click on adsense ads, you get paid. What could be more automated?

What Aitch is doing, is entirely different to anyone else I know who is playing the AIS game. I know of no other person putting in that same amount of effort.

At least Aitch is giving it a good go. All you can do is moan and groan - I've some across other people just like you, but at least you are in a minority. Glass Half Empty?

[Blaine Moore]

Originally posted by burty@Apr 27 2006, 10:27 AM
All you can do is moan and groan - I've some across other people just like you, but at least you are in a minority.Â* Glass Half Empty?

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To the optimist, the glass is half-full. To the pessimist, the glass is half- empty. To the engineer, the glass is twice as big as it needs to be.

[burty]

Originally posted by Blaine Moore@Apr 27 2006, 05:58 PM
To the optimist, the glass is half-full. To the pessimist, the glass is half- empty. To the engineer, the glass is twice as big as it needs to be.

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I've not heard the engineer bit before. Nice one

[Tom]

Originally posted by Blaine Moore@Apr 27 2006, 06:58 PM
To the optimist, the glass is half-full. To the pessimist, the glass is half- empty. To the engineer, the glass is twice as big as it needs to be.

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To the AIS developer, there's room for some Adsense adverts?

[Aitch]

Okay okay, I’ve got to jump in here folks. I’ve been thoroughly enjoying this thread and it’s almost a shame to re-participate as I’ve been having so much fun following it along.

Anyway, to clear up a couple of points from my side of the water:

Firstly, what I’m doing is a little different. I’m simply building ban proof sites. The old AIS game is becoming a lot of hard work for new starters simply because Google and its advertisers are not too happy with the quality of the sites that are getting prime positions on the search results pages. Most of the major search engines seem to be on a mission to try and rid such sites if the stories that are flying around the forums are anything to go by.

Now, there are a lot of guys that have huge knowledge and know-how in this business and they will always continue to make money, but it’s a lot more time consuming than it ever was before, and new methods, automated software and scripts are being put together and sold all the time in order to stay ahead of the game. If it sounds like your cup of tea, that’s fine, but personally I like to show a little more TLC with my sites and watch them prosper with age.

It’s a fact for anyone in the know, compared to yesteryear, Google, Yahoo and MSN are banning web sites in record numbers.

Despite the zillions of sites out there on the world wide web, there are human quality control reviewers that are wiping out entire networks and even putting some online marketers out of business altogether! The clever ones have their interests well diversified, and although they get stung from time to time they do not get ruined.

So, based on that fact and because I hadn’t got into AIS too heavily, I decided to opt out and simply build and empire out of hard graft using Original Content. It’s original, hand written content that the search engines want. It’s what they’ve always wanted.

Every month I’m one of 350 people worldwide that receives 400 articles that I can do what I want with. Alter, add to, delete from, put me as author, whatever. There are a multitude of subjects to choose from and I select what I want and add them to my hand build sites of which I now have 11.

In addition to the articles, which have all been carefully written with keyword density kept between 1 and 3% on all major key phrases, I also research a bunch of popular searched for key phrases (the longer the better) and work them into the article or snippets around the page.

There’s nothing wrong with these sites, they are genuine, hand built, designed and written with optimization in mind throughout the process. All new pages then get back links from announcement blogs (no automating here either and these blogs are heavily monitored to keep the spam out). All these blogs have been indexed and ranked so carry some juice.

The reason I’m hosting my sites across a number of different accounts is because I’m going to build a series of mini nets in the future. There’s a steep learning curve here and I’ll be investing in the e-book called Revenge of the Mininet by Michael Campbell, so that I do it correctly.

So, whether you want to be busy building hundreds of sites for quick-click AdSense bucks or more stable ban proof sites that should continue to make you money for years to come, is down to the preference of the webmaster, net entrepreneur, call him what you will.

Yes, I’m starting with AdSense but I have no intention of keeping all my eggs in one basket. Once up and running I’ll be looking at other ways to generate income from affiliate sales, advertisers, personal products, etc. Just for the record, my MrRoomfinder website has 3 sources for revenue at the moment. Hotels, Asia Chat, and AdSense so I’ve already began to diversify in a way.

Just to finish on then, out of my 10 websites, the oldest one has been online for a month and the latest just 2 weeks. 8 are already indexed by Google, and all are indexed by MSN. Everyday, I’m seeing a few AdSense clicks sent my way from MSN so even after a couple of weeks I’m making a few dollars and even though it’s peanuts, it does indicate that this show is well on the road.

Goodnight all.

Aitch

[Tylor]

Originally posted by burty@Apr 28 2006, 12:27 AM
All you can do is moan and groan - I've some across other people just like you, but at least you are in a minority.Â* Glass Half Empty?

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its quite funny you take it to a personal level

well this is only typical for a person who ran out of meaningful arguments and is eager to argue

good luck

[Tylor]

Originally posted by Aitch@Apr 28 2006, 08:32 AM
Just to finish on then, out of my 10 websites, the oldest one has been online for a month and the latest just 2 weeks.Â* 8 are already indexed by Google, and all are indexed by MSN.Â* Everyday, I’m seeing a few AdSense clicks sent my way from MSN so even after a couple of weeks I’m making a few dollars and even though it’s peanuts, it does indicate that this show is well on the road.

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way to go aitch

your approach is very interesting keep us posted and good luck

[Tylor]

Originally posted by burty@Apr 28 2006, 12:27 AM
Product Site:Â* Buyers pay via paypal, they get sent to a download script, they download the product.Â* What can be more automated?
Adsense Site:Â* People click on adsense ads, you get paid.Â* What could be more automated?

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you are taking the word automated out of its context

what you describe here is merely automated payment

what you should have shown is automated income stream

logic 101:

for an automated income stream to be automated there needs to be an income stream

logic 102:

if there is no income stream any claim about it being automated or not has no meaning :blink:

pop quiz:

what is the difference between an engineer and an ais developer

an engineer builds automated systems that work

an ais developer builds a site and gives it a big name

[Aitch]

Hi Guys.

I think we’ve gone off on a bit of a tangent here and perhaps getting into micro analysation a bit too much.

The bottom line is the goal. The goal for most folks looking to earn a residual type income with as little work as possible after the initial setup is completed and tweaked to perfection.

When setting up any web business, it usually requires a bit of hard work no matter which approach you take, but hopefully, if it’s done right, ole webby can then leave it alone as it starts, and hopefully continues, to generate an income with little or no extra work on behalf of the creator.

If you offer a product or service which requires simple interaction from the user in the form of downloads or making payments, there usually has to be some kind of after sales service and backup offered, so such sites will always require a bit of ongoing participation from the webmaster or his staff. Therefore, such sites are not really 'build them and leave them'. This is okay though as it’s the preferred line of business of that particular net entrepreneur. Of course, the better the product or online service offered, the less after-sales-service will be required.

Sites which are set up for information and or entertainment purposes, and have some kind of legal disclaimer written in exemplifying the webmaster from content throughout the site, be it internal content or external links, have little extra work to do after set up, other than adding a new page or two here and there if the webmaster so desires.

No one’s approach is right or wrong, just different. Some make more money than others and some flop. The bottom line is most will fail before they succeed but action is the key. Good luck to everyone.

Aitch

[Blaine Moore]

Originally posted by Aitch@Apr 28 2006, 03:09 AM
The bottom line is the goal. The goal for most folks looking to earn a residual type income with as little work as possible after the initial setup is completed and tweaked to perfection.
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No one’s approach is right or wrong, just different. Some make more money than others and some flop. The bottom line is most will fail before they succeed but action is the key.Â* Good luck to everyone.

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Well put. My goals are to work my ass off for the next 4 years, and then to only have to put in 10-15 hours of work thereafter per week to maintain the income I generate.

I am on my way there...