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Old 2nd May 2006, 11:05 PM
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if they get banned dont the adsense account get banned as well

they cannot create hundreds of adsense accounts since each account is checked by google

so?
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Old 3rd May 2006, 07:40 PM
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Hi Tylor.

Some webmasters have a few backup AdSense accounts just in case, but most tend to hold onto their own account as all their money needs to go into their name and their banks otherwise it gets a little messy! A backup account would have to be different details, i.e. name, bank, etc.

If Google or the other SE’s think your site(s) offer little or nothing to their visitors they will de-list the site so as not to occupy their prime slots, as it’s bad for business.

AdWords customers want good quality sites with targeted traffic to host their ads. If the visitor gets directed to trashy sites who’s main objective is to get them clicking on their AdSense Ads, (as many of these sites have very little useful content) then such sites are considered to be spammy in nature as the visitor is not finding what he wanted, and is in effect getting the run-around as the headline in Google’s search results page proves misleading. Such sites do not follow Google’s Guidelines for webmasters.

The whole game with the Search Engines is to provide the results the searcher is looking for as quickly as possible, and that means weeding out ‘inappropriate sites’ with misleading content. By that I mean those webmasters that present different content to search engines than they actually display to users on the sites. It’s what they commonly refer to as black hat tactics.

Now although these sites may not be considered adequate or worthy for a Google listing due to their misleading behaviour, it doesn’t necessarily mean the webmaster will loose his AdSense account. To loose your AdSense account you have to break Google's Terms of Service (TOS) and most AISer’s are pretty clear what lines not to cross.

To summarise then Tylor, it’s my belief that if you do things outside Google’s guidelines, they’ll delist your site and strip any PR you might have, and that is what they call a spam penalty. To lose your AdSense account you have to break the TOS to which you agree to when signing up for an account.

At least that’s how I believe it works.

Anyone else?

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if you do things outside Google’s guidelines, they’ll delist your site and strip any PR you might have, and that is what they call a spam penalty. To lose your AdSense account you have to break the TOS to which you agree to when signing up for an account.
thank for the explanation

i was just sitting and thinking

it all those mass ais sites get banned again and again and the webmasters can create new sites quicker than they get banned so they manage to beat google in their game and make a fortune

google gets money as well of course from those clicks but their reliablity decreases

what if google gets realy pissed in some point and changes its policy to terminate adsense accounts of misbehaving webmasters

it will through them out of business overnight

by the way, I just review the terms and conditions in google adsense

i dont know how many webmaster really read the whole thing

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Google may at any time, in its sole discretion, terminate all or part of the Program, terminate this Agreement, or suspend or terminate the participation of any Site in all or part of the Program for any reason.
so actually no change of policy is required they can terinate any program for any reason and dont need to provide an explanation
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Old 3rd May 2006, 09:49 PM
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by the way there are over 4,600 words in that agreement ill be dammed if anyone have ever read the whole thing
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Originally posted by Tylor@May 4 2006, 03:34 AM
it all those mass ais sites get banned again and again and the webmasters can create new sites quicker than they get banned so they manage to beat google in their game and make a fortune
You got it! I know of one person who puts around 3 million individual webpages online every single day. He is one of a kind. However, with just a couple of hundred dollars spent it is simple for any Tom, Dick or Harry to put online 1000s and 1000s of webpages per day.

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google gets money as well of course from those clicks but their reliablity decreases

what if google gets realy pissed in some point and changes its policy to terminate adsense accounts of misbehaving webmasters

it will through them out of business overnight
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Bear in mind that Google is only out to please it's shareholders. They are unlikely to terminate adsense accounts as Google then loses out, which means the shareholders lose out...
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The real risk is that Google's AdWords customers don't get any value from the AdSense clicks. That's the balance Google has to strike.

I can speak from experience that AdWords for content (AdSense) has not performed nearly as well as AdWords for search has for me.

Ultimately Google needs to look after -

1. It's search engine - they have to stay on top of their core competency
2. Deliver results to AdWords users
3. Attract more AdSense publishers which increases their advertising inventory.

...and of course do all the thousands of other things they do, but those three make up their main revenue stream for the time being.

It's a fine balance to strike.
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Originally posted by burty@May 4 2006, 09:52 PM
You got it!Â* I know of one person who puts around 3 million individual webpages online every single day.Â* He is one of a kind.Â* However, with just a couple of hundred dollars spent it is simple for any Tom, Dick or Harry to put online 1000s and 1000s of webpages per day.
where do you get content for 3 million websites a day

just have a dictionary file and randomize words out of it i assume
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Originally posted by Yaro@May 4 2006, 10:34 PM
The real risk is that Google's AdWords customers don't get any value from the AdSense clicks. That's the balance Google has to strike.

I can speak from experience that AdWords for content (AdSense) has not performed nearly as well as AdWords for search has for me.

Ultimately Google needs to look after -

1. It's search engine - they have to stay on top of their core competency
2. Deliver results to AdWords users
3. Attract more AdSense publishers which increases their advertising inventory.

...and of course do all the thousands of other things they do, but those three make up their main revenue stream for the time being.

It's a fine balance to strike.
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good points

is it only a matter of time until those mass ais sites will be so wide spread that they become a major issue for google credibility
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