An ideal AIS site

[jas]

Hi all,

I have a few niches in hand and since I'm new with AIs I want to put them to test. My primary focus is adsense and i'll promote an affilate product to make it not so obvious about adsense only.

How many pages is best for an AIS site?

What's the best site structure? Just articles of information only good enough to get started?

I've read that there are problems with AIS sites that may get banned or delisted? What's the actual problem?

Correct me if I'm wrong. What I understand is AIS site is similiar to a mini-site with around 20-30 pages. We still need to do the basic stuff of SEO and promotion for traffic. We put up a site and do all that are necessary and move on to another one. Are there any others that I missed?

As I know the purpose of AIS sites is to get them listed fast and drive traffic to it. What's the best traffic building methods for AIS sites that are tested and proven? Currently I have 2 sites which are not really keyword focused that are not getting much traffic. Any ideas for these typr of sites (not keyword focused)?

Sorry for these questions cos I just need to know some fatcs before I proceed with AIS project.

Thanks.

jasman

[JamesET]

Hi all,

I have a few niches in hand and since I'm new with AIs I want to put them to test. My primary focus is adsense and i'll promote an affilate product to make it not so obvious about adsense only.

How many pages is best for an AIS site?

What's the best site structure? Just articles of information only good enough to get started?

I've read that there are problems with AIS sites that may get banned or delisted? What's the actual problem?

Correct me if I'm wrong. What I understand is AIS site is similiar to a mini-site with around 20-30 pages. We still need to do the basic stuff of SEO and promotion for traffic. We put up a site and do all that are necessary and move on to another one. Are there any others that I missed?

As I know the purpose of AIS sites is to get them listed fast and drive traffic to it. What's the best traffic building methods for AIS sites that are tested and proven? Currently I have 2 sites which are not really keyword focused that are not getting much traffic. Any ideas for these typr of sites (not keyword focused)?

Sorry for these questions cos I just need to know some fatcs before I proceed with AIS project.

Thanks.

jasman
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Hi jasman

I'm new to this idea too but I've been studying all I can. Probably I need to spend more time on content instead of studying.

Fro what I've learned an AIS site can really be just about any size. Burty (he seems to be the board expert on this subject) mentioned he has one AIS site of one page. I am not sure if there is a real solid ideal size.
The real idea of AIS is to get a site started that will not need much further attention so you can build more - automated.

The banning of sites is not because they are AIS. It is because they are spam sites. They provide no value. Some are just copied content. If you produce content that is useful and original, you will not have to worry about being banned.

As far as I can tell, you really just have to wait for the traffic. This is the advantage a blog has over many AIS sites. Blog design seems to be attractive to search engines. Blog writing style tends to focus the writer to a single topic for a post making it keyword rich.

As far as your sites that are not keyword focused, why not rewrite the content? Focus on keywords.
Just my $.02. Hopefully we'll hear from some of the others

James

[Tylor]

hi jas

those are certainly worthy questions and i hope you will get satisfiable answers

however there is not a single solution

different people do it in different ways

the most successful will be those who figured out an orignial way of their own rather than tying to repeat something that worked for somebody else

aitch here is doing small sites with article he buys from some site
his focus is many many small sites (not neccesarily single page though)

burty is mostly selling his own digital products in his sites and does not recommend adsense

yaro is developing a few sites and grows the traffic by writing original content keeping community (like this forum) and sending newsletter

blair moore is running to win

myself i watch with interest and ask questions that are sometimes difficult to answer

i wish you good luck with your project and keep us posted for the benefit of all

tylor

[burty]

I don't "not recommend adsense".

What I do recommend is spreading your streams of income so that if adsense stopped tomorrow, you would still have an income.

[burty]

A load of answers about AIS can be found in my Blog.

I don't like to be seen as an expert - I just try things that other people are not open to trying. Sometimes my ideas crash and burn, sometimes they take off well.

What people have seen is my success, and have tried to replicate that - without realising that it's taken me 2.5 years to get to this stage. AIS is not a quick route to earning good cash, unless you have the procedures in place to be able to create a product, create a site, then get instant targetted traffic.

My first year of AIS probably earned less than what I do per month now. If I can find time I will go back and dig out my records of AIS earnings for my 1st 6 months, and compare to this last 6 months. Might be interesting to do that and blog about it.

[burty]

OK, just because it's easy to do in the Adsense Login, I totalled the amount of adsense I earned between the following dates:

Dec 14 2003 -> May 18 2004 (my first 6 months of adsense)
and
Dec 14 2005 -> May 18 2006 (my latest 6 months of adsense)

The results are quite interesting.

I actually have *less* sites running adsense now than I did back then (as I sold quite a few sites).

I have increased my adsense earnings by 1733%. In other words for every $1 earned back in early 2004, I now earn $17.33.

When I drag out my other AIS earnings in the same period (it's all on paper somewhere), I'll blog about it in more detail.

[Tylor]

I have increased my adsense earnings by 1733%. In other words for every $1 earned back in early 2004, I now earn $1733.
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i assume you mean $16.33 for every $1

if you increase your earnings by 100% than for every $1 made you now make $2
if you increase your earnings by 1000% than for every $1 made you now make $11

you know the joke about the two savvy investors
one says to the other

you need to buy for $3
sell for $5
and be happy for the 2% you made

[burty]

I'm not that great with Maths - never have been, never will be I failed my Maths Exam at school

In the first 6 months of my adsense account, say I earned $125 (* see note below).
In the latest 6 months, say I earned $2166

What % is that ? 1733% or 17.33% ? Or something else?

* By the way, those figures are not my actual earnings, just an example.

Gah! I see what you are saying now. I missed a decimal point in my $1733.

Yes, for every $1 then, is now $17.33.

[jas]

Thanks everyone for sharing. This give me some general ideas on how to get started.

I need a 2nd opinion on this.

I'm currently focusing on health and wellness. I have 2 options here, either to put up a single site with all the types of diseases and health problems or 1 site for each type of disease. Which is more ideal? As I can see, for AIS, the second method is better.

Most like I'm not using keywords cos I'm using PLR article and some articles form old health publications. It will be very difficult for putting keywords here. Moreover my written english is very bad and I don't have any knowledge in health industry. What would you recommend to generate traffic to non-keyword focus sites like mine?

Thanks.

jasman

[Yaro]

blair moore is running to win
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Lol! Go Blair!

Yeah, the whole AIS moniker is a difficult one to define. I think burty knows what it is to him but others are still confused.

I initially I considered AIS to be the same as niche content sites which are the same as VRE (virtual real estate) coined by John Reese.

In fact they are probably all a little bit different. Anyway the name doesn't really matter. What's really important is the motivation behind the project.

No matter how you go about creating automatic income streams from the web, whether it's with adsense, digital products, affiliate sales, advertising or combinations of all of these you need to care about what you are doing - and the focus can't be only the money.

Aitch, presumably, enjoys building content sites enough that he's prepared to spend months at it.

As burty says he's dabbled in all kinds of sites over the 2.5 years that he has been at it.

John Reese has a system where he can generate hundreds of websites which attract hundreds of thousands of pageviews. If you get that many pageviews in the right niches AdSense can pay very well since the click through rates and pay rates are fantastic (John brings in half a million per year in AdSense).

I've made money from everything I listed but my best money earner is the least automatic of them all - BetterEdit. BetterEdit is not an AIS since it's not automatic. It's an online business with customer support, contract workers, and all that jazz. It has a loyal base of repeat users and that's why it succeeds.

My current project - Blog Traffic - will be a lot more automatic but I still intend to be heavily involved in the community and customer service, so it won't be pure AIS either.

I personally don't think there is any system that is pure AIS because you need to rely on technology to keep functioning. If you don't at least test the systems now and then to make sure everything is working you may find that your automatic system is not so automatic.

Why AIS is so appealing is essentially because you don't work to create the product or service, you act as the middle man/women, which is always the best place to be in. You can get different levels of automation to control your role as the middle person and of course most people try to make it as automatic as possible. But if you don't enjoy the process you won't get far.